Today on the pod we’re joined by Rowan Zorilla, who you likely know as a pro skater.
We’re also joined by footwear designer Jake Crawford. He’s the guy behind Vans hitters like the Era Wafflecup, the Crockett High and the Upland.
They’ve joined forces on Rowan Z3, Rowan’s pro new model, and we’re here to talk about it.
We get into everything - how the shoe came together, inspiration (spoiler: baseball cleats!), Jake’s path to becoming a footwear designer, crucial video soundtracks, and Rowan skating vulc soles for his entire career and now pivoting into being a cupsole guy(!!!).















